Sunday, March 2, 2025

Exaltation?

The LDS church teaches that Jesus offers you "Salvation", but that your works offer you something greater which is called: "Exaltation".


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Copy and paste from the Church website (you can skim)

Requirements for Exaltation

The time to fulfill the requirements for exaltation is now (see Alma 34:32–34).

President Joseph Fielding Smith said, “In order to obtain the exaltation we must accept the gospel and all its covenants; and take upon us the obligations which the Lord has offered; and walk in the light and the understanding of the truth; and ‘live by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God’” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:43).

To be exalted, we first must place our faith in Jesus Christ and then endure in that faith to the end of our lives. Our faith in Him must be such that we repent of our sins and obey His commandments.

He commands us all to receive certain ordinances:

We must be baptized.

We must receive the laying on of hands to be confirmed a member of the Church of Jesus Christ and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Brethren must receive the Melchizedek Priesthood and magnify their callings in the priesthood.

We must receive the temple endowment
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We must be married for eternity, either in this life or in the next.

In addition to receiving the required ordinances, the Lord commands all of us to:

Love God and our neighbors.

Keep the commandments.

Repent of our wrongdoings.

Search out our kindred dead and receive the saving ordinances of the gospel for them
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Attend our Church meetings as regularly as possible so we can renew our baptismal covenants by partaking of the sacrament. (this is a fallacy that gets perpetuated in the church that partaking of the sacrament renews your baptismal covenants. Even Elder Anderson slips it out in a training meeting at the 14:24 minute mark of this video)

Love our family members and strengthen them in the ways of the Lord.

Have family and individual prayers every day.

Teach the gospel to others by word and example.

Study the scriptures.

Listen to and obey the inspired words of the prophets of the Lord.

Finally, each of us needs to receive the Holy Ghost and learn to follow His direction in our individual lives.
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From the Church we learn that because of the sacrifice, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ - salvation is available to all who repent. Then the church also does this: "But wait! There's more!" and tells you that salvation is actually the lesser gift. The "more" is Exaltation which comes by your works.

Think of that.

To the Church - the suffering and death of Jesus Christ is a lesser gift.

This is what is known as "doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1)

To perpetually teach someone to devalue Jesus' sacrifice is cunning indeed. The church adds to Jesus' sacrifice (3 Nephi 11:39) a list of things you need to do in order to get to a higher heaven...they promote a lifetime hamster wheel of distraction. Jesus was clear:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (Matthew 7)
Yes, there are differing Kingdoms in the afterlife (John 14: 2-6), but the requirements to live in each glory all have a law to be abided by (doing the Lord's will) not self-serving/self-manufactured deeds. 



Jesus illustrates this in the parable of the talents (Matthew 25: 14-30). To one is given five, another two, another one. If you multiply what you have been given (to multiply is to seek and do the Father's will), then you will increase your gift. If you hide what you are given, or in other words - if you don't seek and do the Lord's will/are self-serving/self-manufacturing a sacrifice, then by the sheer mathematics of it - you don't have more (Matthew 16:24). Another parable that illustrates this example is the laborers in the vineyard (Matthew 20: 1-16) who each come at different times but all are given the agreed upon payment.




Those that live in a different glory will not do so because of the works they did. They will live there because they took what they had (the life they were given) and multiplied it (asked the Lord His will and did it). There are thrones, kingdoms, principalities, powers, dominions, and eternal lives. Jacob shows us that we live in eternal progression (Genesis 28: 11-19).



Then what is Salvation and Exaltation?

I frequently use this website to research scriptures and I highly recommend it. I did a word search in the standard works to see where Jesus uses the word 'Exaltation' and aside from D&C 124: 9 where it says, "...the Gentiles to the exaltation or lifting up of Zion" the word Exaltation is only used in ONE place in all recorded scripture. Where, you might ask?

D&C 132.

In case you weren't aware, D&C 132 was not given by the Lord but was deceitfully manufactured by Brigham Young and more can be learned about it in this video by Rob Fotheringham which can be found here.

Know this, dear reader: Exaltation is a doctrine of devils and was never taught by Jesus. We have been brainwashed into believing this is an eternal principle which will get us to the highest heavens.



Jesus said that many will do works like prophesy and cast out devils (and more) - but it will fall short for one reason. He says clearly - you have to do the will of the Father (increase your talent) or it's all selfish (hiding your talent in the earth). If you prophesy, cast out devils, and do many wonderful works without it being the will of the Father - He will say that He actually never knew you. Another translation is - you never knew Him.

Here is what He asks for:
D&C 88:

67 And if your eye be single to my glory, your whole bodies shall be filled with light, and there shall be no darkness in you; and that body which is filled with light comprehendeth all things.

68 Therefore, sanctify yourselves (seek and do His will) that your minds become single to God, and the days will come that you shall see him; for he will unveil his face unto you, and it shall be in his own time, and in his own way, and according to his own will.
David was special to God and the Lord tells us why that is: "I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will." (Acts 13:22)

Allow me to phrase that scripture differently: 

"I have found David the son of Jesse, a man who chased after My own Heart...who wanted such intimacy with Me he pursued My Heart by seeking and doing My will."


Are you a man/woman who is chasing after God's own heart? The Lord called people Zion (Moses 7:18) because they were of one heart and one mind...His. That is Zion. That is the intimacy that God is after. We were made for intimacy with God. As Evelyn Underhill said, those that find God don't find Him because God loves them more...they find Him because those that earnestly seek Him, "loved and attended to Him more."

I don't know who coined the phrase "parable of the prodigal son" but my husband noted it should probably be called the Parable of the Father. It truly reveals His heart towards us. 

Jesus repeatedly spells out His love for us in the Gospels but our religious brainwashing keeps us from seeing it - even when we have "woken up" to the corruption of the Church. Matthew 9:9-13 capatures a lovely glimpse of the gospel of Jesus:
As Jesus was walking on from there he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax office, and said to him, "Follow me." And he got up and followed him. Now while he was at the table in the house it happened that a number of tax collectors and sinners came to sit at the table with Jesus and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they said to his disciples, "Why does your master eat with tax collectors and sinners?" When he heard this he replied, "It is not the healthy who need the doctor, but the sick. Go and learn the meaning of the words: Mercy is what pleases me, not sacrifice. And indeed I came to call not the upright, but sinners." 

The next things I write are from a book by Brennan Manning (The Ragamuffin Gospel): 

"Our resistance to the furious love of God may be traced to the church, our parents and pastors, and life itself. They have hidden the face of a compassionate God, we protest and favored a God of holiness, justice, and wrath. Yet if we were truly men and women of prayer, our faces set like flint and our hearts laid waste by passion, we would discard our excuses. We would be done with blaming others. We must go out into a desert of some kind (your backyard will do) and come into a personal experience of the awesome love of God."

This is the gospel of God. "A God who, out of love for us, sent the only Son He ever had wrapped in our skin. He learned how to walk, stumbled and fell, cried for His milk, sweated blood in the night, was lashed with a whip and showered with spit, was fixed to a cross, and died whispering forgiveness on us all."

Jesus spent a disproportionate amount of time with people described in the Gospels as the poor, the blind, the lame, the lepers, the hungry, sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors, the persecuted, the downtrodden, the captives, those possessed by unclean spirits, all who labor and are heavy burdened, the rabble who know nothing of the law, the crowds, the little ones, the least, the last, and the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 

"The saved sinner is prostrate in adoration, lost in wonder and praise. He knows repentance is not what we do in order to earn forgiveness; it is what we do because we have been forgiven. It serves as an expression of gratitude rather than an effort to earn forgiveness. Thus the sequence of forgiveness and then repentance, rather than repentance and then forgiveness, is crucial for understanding the gospel of grace." 

Perhaps you've heard this story:

Years ago in a large city in the far West, rumors spread that a certain Catholic woman was having visions of Jesus. The reports reached the archbishop. He decided to check her out. There is always a fine line between the authentic mystic and the lunatic fringe. 

“Is it true ma’am, that you have visions of Jesus?” asked the cleric. 

“Yes,” the woman replied simply. 

“Well, the next time you have a vision, I want you to ask Jesus to tell you the sins that I confessed in my last confession.” 

The woman was stunned. “Did I hear you right, bishop? You actually want me to ask Jesus to tell me the sins of your past?” 

“Exactly. Please call me if anything happens.” 

Ten days later the woman notified her spiritual leader of a recent apparition. “Please come,” she said. 

Within the hour the archbishop arrived. He trusted eye-to-eye contact. “You just told me on the phone that you actually had a vision of Jesus. Did you do what I asked?” 

“Yes, bishop, I asked Jesus to tell me the sins you confessed in your last confession.” 

The bishop leaned forward with anticipation. His eyes narrowed. “What did Jesus say?” 

She took his hand and gazed deep into his eyes. “Bishop,” she said, “these are his exact words: ‘I CAN'T REMEMBER.’”

The prophetic word spoken by Jesus to a thirty-four-year-old widow, Marjory Kempe, in Lynn, Massachusetts in 1667 remains ever ancient, ever new: "More pleasing to Me than all your prayers, works, and penances is that you would believe I love you." 

Mark 14:3-9 (NCV)
Jesus was in Bethany at the house of Simon, who had a skin disease. While Jesus was eating there, a woman approached him with an alabaster jar filled with very expensive perfume, made of pure nard. She opened the jar and poured the perfume on Jesus’ head. Some who were there became upset and said to each other, “Why waste that perfume? It was worth a full year’s work. It could have been sold and the money given to the poor.” And they got very angry with the woman. Jesus said, “Leave her alone. Why are you troubling her? She did an excellent thing for me. You will always have the poor with you, and you can help them anytime you want. But you will not always have me. This woman did the only thing she could do for me; she poured perfume on my body to prepare me for burial. I tell you the truth, wherever the Good News is preached in all the world, what this woman has done will be told, and people will remember her.”
What an impulsive, lovely gesture of gratitude! By human reckoning it was a foolish and wasteful thing to do. Yet Jesus was so deeply moved He wanted the tale of this woman's recklessness told and retold across the generations until the end of time!

How long will it be before we discover we cannot dazzle God with our accomplishments? 

When will we acknowledge that we need not and cannot buy God's favor?

In Dostoyevsky's incomparable novel The Brothers Karamazov, the charge flung by the Church - embodied in the Grand Inquisitor - against Jeuss who has returned to earth is, "Why have you come to disturb us?"

After fifteen hundred years the institutional Church, instead of proclaiming Jesus, had supplanted Him. Ecclesiastical traditions and man-made laws had ursurped Jesus, and the Church was living off the success of its ingenuity. 

There was too much light and truth in Jesus. His word, "You will know the truth and the truth will make you free," was intolerable. The elders decided that men and women simply were not capable of being free; so the Church ascribed to itself the protection of souls entrusted to it, only to dispense it when absolutely necessary. Ordinary people could not endure the burden of freedom, so the Church took it away from them for their own good. They would only abuse and misuse it anyway. Delivered from the anxiety and torment of personal decision and responsibility, people would feel safe and happy in the obedience to authority. 
"They will be amazed at us," says the Grand Inquisitor to Jesus, "and will think of us as gods, because we, who set ourselves at their head, are ready to endure freedom, this freedom from which they shrink in horror; and because we are ready to rule over them - so terrible will it seem to them, in the end, to be free. But we shall say that we are obeying you and tuling only in your name. Again we shall be betraying them, for we shall not let you have anything to do with us anymore." Indeed, "Why have you come to disturb us?" The Grand Inquisitor means to take this Jesus who has come again, bringing freedom once again, and burn him at the stake in the name of the Church." 
The question had become not "What does Jesus say?" but "What does the Church say?" This question is still being asked today. 

Jesus wants intimacy with us. A lasting, intimate, daily relationship with Him where you commune with Him right here, right now. I thought to experience Jesus meant that I needed to attempt to get to some distant throne in the heavens where I would need to desperately claw my way to get there. What I learned was that He is here...right here by me, in me, around me...and always has been. That He could be so close, so near was the unbelief I needed to get rid of.

The best way that I have experienced Jesus is through the Wild at Heart ministry. They experience Jesus and want others to experience Him too. They are releasing a book on March 4th called, "Experience Jesus. Really." The audio book is designed to walk you through experiencing Jesus and I recommend getting their book. Here is a podcast they recently did where they show sections of what the book is about. 

That's my wish, if I had one wish. That all would desire Him, seek Him, and find Him! There is no greater relationship and is the pearl of great price worthy of sacrificing everything for. 

The Name Lives On
by
David Phelps





Wednesday, February 26, 2025

O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers...

 










37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.


Thursday, February 6, 2025

Dry Bones

In December I was speaking with a relative who shared how much joy they were finding in serving in the Temple. We spoke for about 15 minutes as they bore strong testimony of their experiences in the Temple and they buttressed their experiences with the fact that the church is announcing and building temples at an ever increasing pace..."so of course - we need to be in the Temple because salvation is found in the Temple." To which I replied, "Well, we don't go to church anymore - so how will that work for us? To my understanding, Jesus said that we are the Temple and we are the thing that must become Holy." The conversation quickly ended and I wished I would have pointed out to them that in all their conversation they never once mentioned Jesus or Heavenly Father. The Temple was Jesus to them and is the end goal. And why not? That's what the church teaches and focus' on.

Which then makes me ask - how did we get here nearly 200 years after the church was started? 

And where is 'here', exactly? 

From Wikipedia:

367 temples in various phases
202 dedicated temples
193 operating
9 others undergoing renovations
4 with a dedication scheduled
48 under construction
3 with groundbreakings scheduled
110 others announced (not yet under construction)

Members of the church are beginning to say, "The second coming is approaching because we have all these temples being built! And President Nelson mentioned 'the second coming' in his last conference talk!!!" 

Are we SO starved for revelation that the mere mention of Jesus coming again and announcing new Temples causes members to go into cardiac arrest? This is where we are at. Dry bones

LORD bless Your people. 
Lord - let your people who are dry bones, 
hear the word of the Lord! 
Make Your breath enter them, and they will come to life. 
Attach tendons to them and make flesh come upon them 
and cover them with skin. 
Put Your breath in them and make them come to life. 
Then they will know that 
YOU are the LORD.

Why is the church is announcing and building up temples faster than ever before? 

Let's look at the timeline:

January 2018 President Nelson called 

Temple announcements

April 2018 7
Oct.  2018 12
April 2019 8
Oct.   2019 8

NOVEMBER 2019: 

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints learned about the whistleblower complaint in mid-November 2019, when the complaint was filed with the IRS.

David Nielsen is a whistleblower who reported the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) to the IRS and SEC for violations. Nielsen's reports focused on Ensign Peak, the LDS Church's investment firm. 
What did Nielsen report?
  • Nielsen reported that Ensign Peak made unlawful misstatements to the SEC to conceal tax violations 
  • Nielsen reported that Ensign Peak was a for-profit business that the LDS Church "bailed out" 
  • Nielsen reported that Ensign Peak masked itself as a charity 
What was the response? 
  • The SEC found that Ensign Peak made almost two decades of misstatements in violation of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
  • The LDS Church admitted to "bailout" of Ensign Peak
You can watch Nielsen's story on 60 Minutes (link). 

What was the church's response? 

Spending spree.


Temple announcements after whistleblower 
filed with the IRS:

April 2020 8 (covid restrictions)
Oct.   2020 6 
(covid restrictions)
April 2021 20
Oct,  2021 13
April 2022 17
Oct.   2022 18
April 2023 35
Oct.   2023 20
April 2024 32
Oct.   2024 17

From the Salt Lake Tribune (link & link):

New federal reports value a massive investment portfolio of stocks, bonds and mutual funds managed on behalf of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at a five-year high of $56.8 billion.

That accounting to U.S. regulators for July, August and September of this year shows the amount about $2 billion above the previous quarter, when the immense fund run by church-owned Ensign Peak Advisors essentially traded sideways, with a scant quarter-over-quarter loss of 0.06%, or roughly $32 million and change.

That $56.8 billion total is also the most the once-secretive account has held since Ensign Peak began reporting its holdings to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in early 2020.

Where does the portfolio stand now compared to previous quarters?

The latest total value is nearly 90% above where it was during the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in early 2020, when it plunged to $29.8 billion before staging a dramatic rebound.

It now is about 3.9% above its total for the first and second quarters of this year, when its managers reported to regulators that it hovered at about $54.7 billion.

The fund now holds shares in 1,706 investments, including, stocks, bonds, real estate trusts, index funds and other equities — a figure that managers have steadily whittled down quarter by quarter from 2,308 holdings in mid-2022.

How does it fit with overall church wealth?

Ensign Peak manages only a portion of the Utah-based church’s overall wealth, representing the U.S. stocks it holds directly and is required to report.

(ONLY A PORTION!!!)

In-depth analysis of public documents indicates the investment firm and affiliated funds manage assets on behalf of the global faith worth somewhere in the range of $265 billion, with around $32 billion of that in landholdings.

The Widow’s Mite Report, a website devoted to research and analysis of the church’s finances (please check out the widow's mite report), projects the church could be worth at least a trillion dollars by 2044.

(Did you catch that??? In 19 years the church could be worth at least a Trillion dollars. A trillion!!!)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will pay $289 million in cash for a massive addition to its expansive empire of farmlands, further bolstering the faith’s position among the largest U.S. agricultural landowners.

The purchase through subsidiary Farmland Reserve, set to close Wednesday, will fold into its vast real estate portfolio 46 farms covering a total of 41,554 acres in Arkansas, the Carolinas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Oklahoma, as well as in Florida and Nebraska, where the Utah-based church already has large landholdings with rich farming operations.

The faith’s nonprofit farm investment company has made a spate of similarly large purchases since 2018, solidifying it as a key player in the U.S. farm sector and a leading landowner in several states — part of overall holdings of food-producing farms and ranches worldwide amounting to about 2.5 million acres or more.

In response to a Salt Lake Tribune inquiry, Rose offered an additional comment, relayed through a church spokesperson:

“By investing and operating wisely,” Rose said in the statement, “the returns earned by Farmland Reserve and AgReserves are available to support the mission of the church and its religious, humanitarian, educational, and charitable good works.”

When it closes, the purchase from Farmland Partners will add more than 41,000 acres of what are primarily row crops — along with their water rights and support facilities — to roughly 2.5 million acres of identifiable commercial farms and ranches owned by the church — with nearly 85% of those located across North America.

That’s according to one reliable tally. The church is not legally obligated to publicly report its overall landholdings, which property records and public databases indicate are held through hundreds of companies internationally.

Research by the website Widow’s Mite Report indicates that with agricultural lands, temples, chapels and other ecclesiastical buildings, property held through Brigham Young University and extensive commercial real estate holdings, the church’s land portfolio could top $121 billion.

Public records reveal that huge chunks of ranch lands, farms, timber reserves, nut groves, orchards and plots of staple crops like potatoes and corn, located in pockets across the American heartland, are also some of the church’s most valuable real estate holdings.

Its commercial development at City Creek Center in downtown Salt Lake City tops that list at about $2 billion. But close behind — and all hovering around $1 billion in value — are its recently acquired Rex Ranch in Nebraska; Deseret Ranches and Farms and a patch of timberlands in Florida; Deseret Land and Livestock Ranch, near the northern Utah-Idaho border; and a reserve of roughly 250,000 acres of ranches and farms in Brazil.

A separate tally of large landowners by Landgate, a commercial real estate listing and data service, labels the church an “Agriculture Titan.”

The service ranks the LDS church as having the fifth largest landholdings in the U.S., behind timber and forest-product giants Weyerhaeuser, Rayonier and Sierra Pacific Industries and The Nature Conservancy. The latter is focused on ecological preservation.

Farms, ranches bought ‘for long-term value’

Announcement of the Farmland Partners purchase comes as the church is in the midst of a worldwide push to build more temples and as it faces increased scrutiny over its wealth and finances. At the same time, the church has launched a sizable growth spurt for its farm holdings, beginning well before the COVID-19 pandemic.

Nebraska media outlets have reported that since 2018, Farmland Reserve has been on a buying spree in rural Garden County and four neighboring counties that made it that state’s top land purchaser at one point. Its expansion in the Cornhusker State, bolstered by this deal, has pushed its holdings of agriculturally zoned land above 370,000 acres, also among that state’s largest property holdings.

The trend drew pushback from some Nebraska farmers, with complaints the church purchases were elevating land prices and squeezing out local growers.

Farmland Reserve beat out an investment company linked to Microsoft founder Bill Gates in 2021 with a $209 million bid to buy an extensive farm operation known as Easterday Farm in southeastern Washington out of bankruptcy. That deal included ranch lands and nearly 22,500 acres of potatoes, onions, corn and wheat fields along the Columbia Basin.


Gospel Basics

Why We Pay Tithing


stacked coins

Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints give one-tenth of their income to the Church. This is called tithing. The money is used to carry out the work of the Church throughout the world.


What Is Tithing?


One of God’s commandments is to pay tithing, which is one-tenth of our income, to His Church. When we pay tithing, we show our gratitude to God for our blessings. We show that we trust in the Lord and that we are willing to obey Him in all things.



people bringing goods to Melchizedek as payment of tithing

Melchizedek—Keeper of the Storehouse, by Clark Kelley Price


Old Testament Teachings


God’s people have paid tithing since Old Testament times. For example, Abraham paid tithes (see Genesis 14:18–20). The law of tithing was also taught by ancient prophets, including Moses and Malachi (see Leviticus 27:30–34Nehemiah 10:35–37Malachi 3:10).


Restoration of the Law of Tithing


In 1838, the Prophet Joseph Smith asked the Lord how Church members should pay tithing. The Lord’s answer is recorded in Doctrine and Covenants 119, which says that members should give one-tenth of their interest to the Church (see verse 4). Church leaders have taught that “interest” means income.


people shaking hands while one passes an envelope to the other

Photograph by Jamie Dale Johnson


How to Pay Tithing


We can pay tithing by filling out the online donation form at donations.ChurchofJesusChrist.org. Or we can fill out a paper form and give the money to a member of the bishopric or branch presidency. All the money is sent to Church headquarters, where Church leaders (the First Presidency, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, and Presiding Bishopric) prayerfully decide how it will be used. (not investment portfolio managers...right? It said the First Presidency, Quorum of the 12 and Presiding Bishopric....that's the truth, right?)


Blessings


The Lord has promised that those who pay tithing will be blessed temporally and spiritually. Tithing also blesses all of God’s children with the opportunity to learn of Him and grow in the gospel.



Salt Lake Temple

How Tithing Funds Are Used


Tithing money is used to build up the Lord’s Church throughout the world. This includes building temples and other Church structures, printing scriptures and other materials, funding Church-owned schools, and helping with family history and missionary work. (zero mention of the poor. ZERO. When you pay tithing it says it goes to building up the Church. We must not ignore this.)


Tithing Declaration


Once a year, Church members meet with their bishop (or branch president) to tell him if they are full-tithe payers.




Malachi 3 New King James Version:

“Will a man rob God?
Yet you have robbed Me!
But you say,
‘In what way have we robbed You?’
In tithes and offerings.
You are cursed with a curse,
For you have robbed Me,
Even this whole nation.
Bring all the tithes into the storehouse,
That there may be food in My house,
And try Me now in this,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“If I will not open for you the windows of heaven
And pour out for you such blessing
That there will not be room enough to receive it.

Tithes and offerings are to feed the poor! Why have we transfigured the holy word of God? It says that it is for "food in My house" - it doesn't say it is for building and adorning of more and more and more LDS Temples. 

If you are of the mindset that you are obedient to paying your tithing and you are passing the buck to the church and what they do with it is on their heads I say - NO. It is on your head

Try asking the Lord before you pay your tithing again - "Lord, where do You want this money to go? Is there anyone who needs this money right now? If there is, will You show them to me? Do You want this money to go to the building of more temples? Where do You want this money to go?"

If it's the Lord's money - shouldn't He get to direct where it goes? Maybe He'll tell you to keep paying tithing to the church. But at least you will have given Him the opportunity to offer input on where His money should go.

I think it's time to read these verses from Mormon 8 and apply them personally - even if you are 'awakened to your awful situation'.

Yea, it shall come in a day when the power of God shall be denied, and churches become defiled and be lifted up in the pride of their hearts; yea, even in a day when leaders of churches and teachers shall rise in the pride of their hearts...Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that shall say: Come unto me, and for your money (tithing) you shall be forgiven of your sins (be able to go to the highest heaven)
O ye wicked and perverse and stiffnecked people, why have ye built up churches unto yourselves to get gain(Is this you? What do you gain by paying your tithing to the building up of more Temples?) Why have ye transfigured the holy word of God ('modern revelation' twists the scriptures)that ye might bring damnation upon your souls? Behold, look ye unto the revelations of God (just read your scriptures...is the Temple mentioned in the Book of Mormon AT all?); for behold, the time cometh at that day when all these things must be fulfilled.

Behold, the Lord hath shown unto me great and marvelous things concerning that which must shortly come, at that day when these things shall come forth among you...Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not. But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing.
And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes, and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your churchesyea, even every onehave become polluted because of the pride of your hearts. (if you believe this scripture - why would you then turn and pay money to a polluted church?)

For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.

O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teacherswho sell yourselves for that which will canker (do you sell yourself for your temple recommend?), why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies—because of the praise of the world (holding a temple recommend so that you can appear to be a good member of the church when you go to family weddings)?
Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life (adorn was mentioned above when it came to the Temple - are you fulfilling this scripture by further adorning the temples with your tithing money?), and yet suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not? (maybe since you have awakened you have begun to 'give' more to the poor - but you do not give all. If your money is divided between adorning the temples and helping the poor - you are holding back from giving all)
John 4 (NIV)

“Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

“Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem (in the Temple). You Samaritans (Mormons) worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (Are you the kind of worshipper the Father seeks? Ask Him. "What lack I yet?!")

The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

Then Jesus declared,
“I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”


I know I have spoken strongly today. As with anything I say, I'm just some dudette on the internet. Jesus is Lord and King. Ask Him and then do what He says to do.